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Temple Bound
Finding Light, Laughter, and Belonging with Comedian Emily Pack
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This week on Temple Bound, prepare for the most fun you've ever had listening to an episode! We welcome the incredibly talented and viral Latter-day Saint comedian and musician, Emily Pack.
Emily, known for her uplifting, positive, and hilarious ukulele songs about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints culture, shares her powerful conversion story—an arc filled with light and darkness, humor and healing.
She opens up about battling generalized anxiety, depression, and PTSD, and how mental health professionals encouraged her "Hail Mary" return to the Church, leading her to realize that true healing and purpose were found in the gospel.
Key Takeaways from This Episode:
- Laughter is of the Spirit: Emily discusses how her comedy is an expression of her testimony, emphasizing that the spirit is multilingual and that humor can be a profound way to share the truth and love of Jesus Christ.
- The Power of Belonging: Hear about Emily's journey from feeling like a "ghost" who didn't belong to realizing her place as a daughter of God, particularly within the walls of the temple.
- Temple Revelations: Emily shares intimate, funny, and powerful moments of receiving personal revelation in the temple, including a moving experience with a clipboard at the veil, which brought an unexpected sense of empowerment.
- Change in the Church: The conversation dives into recent changes in Church policies and practices, like the new temple garment styles, and how they relate to the unchanging Atonement of Jesus Christ (the "trunk of the tree").
- Live Performances: The episode is bookended by Emily performing beautiful and hilarious songs, including her viral "Tank Top Garment Song" and the beautiful hymn "The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning."
Join us for a conversation that will leave you laughing and deeply moved, as Emily reminds us all that we don't have to be anything other than 100% who we are to be a loved child of God.
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Hey guys, welcome back to Temple Bound. This is one of my favorite shows. As a matter of fact, I will tell you what I told the guest, Emily Pack. When she left, I said something to her that she took as a compliment that I'm going to say to you. This was the most fun I've ever had filming an episode. And you'll see why. Emily Pack is a comedian. She's going viral right now because she does really fun songs with her ukulele that are uplifting and positive and funny and have to do with being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She tells her conversion story as this beautiful arc filled with light and darkness, humor and sorrow. And this story that she'll be telling us is mixed up with some songs that she'll be performing live during this episode. So it starts and ends with songs. There's a song in the middle that's really funny. And I just can't wait for you to hear Emily because she is uh 100% who she is, and she's a call to all to remind us that we don't have to be anything other than who we are to be a loved son or daughter of God. Enjoy the show.
SPEAKER_02:I love to see the temple. I'm going there someday to feel the Holy Spirit to listen and to pray. For the temple is a house of God, a place of love and beauty. I'll prepare myself while I am young. This is my sacred deal.
SPEAKER_04:Wow, thank you. I am so excited, uh Emily, to have you back. You know, not back in the studio, but back in our connection. I you and I have known each other for a number of years. We did improv years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Now I think about it, probably like seven or eight years ago. Yeah. I think it's been before my baby. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So you have a baby?
SPEAKER_01:I have three babies.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:I think like having my first baby really like locked in, like brought me back. Like, remember who you are, because now you have a baby. So yeah, weird to think. Like the people you were friends with before you had kids. Yes. It's like another lifetime. I feel like you're from a dream.
SPEAKER_04:It really is. It's it's very much so. And and it's it's interesting because those relationships we have after we have kids are different, and we end up becoming friends with our kids' friends' parents.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And those things. So yeah, having you, you know, back in in my life is a wonderful blessing. And I am excited to hear about your story. I know the audience is gonna get so much out of it. You know, you're very talented, obviously. Musically, I see that you're you're making an impact. And and for people who don't know, obviously, you have a social media following as well of people that you inspire. Um, so why don't you go ahead and just set the table with who you are, what you're passionate about, and a little bit of your journey, and we'll just kind of go from there.
SPEAKER_01:Um, my name is Emily Pack, and I'm a musician. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I'm a mom of three and a wife to my husband Kendall. I'm here in Mesa, Arizona. I used to do a lot of improv comedy back in the day, which is how I know Will. And um I recently, just as of this year, have gone viral for LDS culture comedy songs, which is really funny because I've spent the last few years really trying to be a very serious musician.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And like not really getting traction, and then kind of just decided to just be a hundred percent myself and just make the jokes I want to make, and then that's what ended up taking off.
SPEAKER_04:So I think people need to laugh. You know, Studio C is such a great example of that, where you have members of the church who, you know, we've culturally come across a certain way, and then you have people who are like, no, we we really want to laugh. We want to just enjoy each other.
SPEAKER_01:That's how I feel the spirit, and I think people sometimes aren't sure. Very few people, most people get where I'm coming from.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But there are some people that are like, like they bristle, like, are you making fun of me? Are you gonna leave the church? And I have to like let people know that the spirit really does joke with me. And that's like I'm crying. Every song I write, like every joke I make, I'm just like tears because the heart of what I'm saying is just like Jesus Christ lives and loves us and is listening to us and knows what we're going through. And the way I can tell you about that in my language is a joke about donuts or mustaches or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_04:So Yeah, and I you and I met around that that world of comedy, and you know, we were just talking before we hit record too, how both of us were going through a bit of a dark time when we reached out to improv and most improvisers are going through hard times.
SPEAKER_01:If you like, if you sign up for an improv 101, like you're you're in the gutter. So true. But it's such a wonderful community and like life-saving community. I don't know if I would have made it through that time if I didn't have all my improv friends and family.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's because there you really are in this unique situation where um people don't get why you're doing it, you know. You're and there's lots of reasons. There are people who are so introverted that it shocks people.
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SPEAKER_04:And sometimes they're the best improvisers, by the way. People that you would see afterwards, people coming up, you were so funny. And they're like, oh, okay, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_04:You know, I just and then you have the people who are there, but it's like a family. You know, you're on stage together and you don't know what's gonna happen second to second. And it's just as terrifying for many of us. I never, I never got super comfortable on stage, even though I always felt you did.
SPEAKER_01:No, that's really nice of you to say. Really? I feel like I just bombed, bombed every show. It's like, oh, there's Emily, she's gonna bomb, but I was just happy to be there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Dave, Dave, I would, you know, Dave was so fun because he and I are the same age and we were really good friends. And so afterwards he we'd do notes on a show, and Dave would look at me and be like, hey, listen, guys, everything we want to do here is positive. But Will, what were you thinking? What were you thinking when you said this? Like, why why? But why though? But why did you do that? And like, can you help me understand why that was your choice?
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, and I felt like there's a lot of pressure, like, especially with improv, it's like something I really got entangled in was like, I have to be funny, so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be like really blue. I'm just gonna make like a dirty joke or I'm gonna cuss or something. I'm like, maybe that'll make people laugh. And it didn't. I think it would have for someone else, but because I wasn't being myself, it was just like cringy. And I think that like weirdly bombing on stage helped me know who I am.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because during that time frame, you're open about this. This was a time where you weren't as engaged with the church and you were kind of in this place of just kind of self-seeking. What was going on for you at that time?
SPEAKER_01:Um, there was like a lot of really heavy stuff going on. I had been like in counseling and therapy for just like generalized anxiety and depression. And then me and my husband saw this horrible thing happen, and then I had PTSD. And so I was just really like I was really lost, and I was really triggered. I was in like fight or flight all the time.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_01:And um weird because my husband was fine, like he was able to deal with it, and I wasn't, and so I don't know, I was just really lost and I was really hurting, and it was I think I was just confused. I feel like I was just kind of a ghost walking around. So it's really cool to see you from like someone I knew during my ghost days, and like and it like makes me feel really touched, like I might start crying that you're like, Oh, I remember you, you were nice. I'm like, weird ghost, Emily. You like felt okay around her. I'm sorry you interacted with her.
SPEAKER_04:You had such a you oh I will say that your radiance is more now. Radiance, but you were, you emanated light back then. You were always so sweet and kind, and yeah, it was touching um when we were connecting for this because it was just like, oh good. And yeah, so I think it's an interesting thing. You know, the darkness on my side was was the overwhelm of work, and just I really had thought like I had completely lost my sense of humor. I just nothing was making me smile or laugh. And what you were saying earlier really speaks to me that laughter is the spirit when it's done in a certain way. There's always these things, right? Like you can take it too far or whatever in terms of being blue or there is that part in the temple that says like loud laughter. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I've like always think about that because I'm like, wait.
SPEAKER_04:Do you think they've taken that out?
SPEAKER_01:They have taken that out. I noticed that last time I was like, good.
SPEAKER_04:So this is funny because humor was so important to me. The first time we went through the temple, I was 18, getting ready to go on my mission. And like with everything that's new in the temple, and I got zero preparation, like zero. So of all the things that my parents were worried about impacting me, it was that comment. We get afterwards, she's like, Hey, are you okay about the loud laughter comment? Like, she just that was that's how important comedy was to me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And I was like, no, I totally get it. You know, I've been you and I've been in those situations where laughter is a detriment, right?
SPEAKER_01:I have heard like, I think there's a certain brand of like loud laughter. And when you have been in a lot of comedy shows, you know, like I've received loud laughter, like from jokes I've made. And I'm like, oh yeah, that is bad. Like that is gross.
SPEAKER_04:And making making someone a I've been the recipient of a joke. Like who knows? Oh, yeah. Like people are laughing at me, not with me. Yeah, I think that might be some of the definition of that. So but the right kind of laughter is inspiring. And do you know what's funny? Elder Anderson, who's on the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, I got to hear him come speak to my ward back in El Paso, Texas, when I was a wee lad.
SPEAKER_03:A wee lad.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, like 18, 19. I was actually, no, I was married, so 21, 22, so young guy. And he killed her. Emily. Hysterical. Like I'm not exaggerating when I say that he had the entire congregation like like doubled over doubled over because it was like positive and light and very like fun and just kind of playful. And and uh I haven't seen that side of him as he was since he's been in the quorum of the 12. Um, but you kind of get these glimpses from the brethren and sisters when they're speaking at from time to time with humor more and more.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So how did so how did yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:It's helpful. I like the spirit speaks to everybody in the spirit is multilingual, and comedy is something that obviously reaches so many people because we have comedy in our commercials and we have comedy in every movie, and we have comedy like all in our songs and all across the board to like so. Of course, we need it to speak to us about the most important things in life. And we need we need the we need comedy to speak to us about the spirit too.
SPEAKER_04:Isn't that true? And I think that if we understood it the eternal nature of our existence, a lot of things that worry us would actually be a lot funnier. Yeah, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's like it is like playing with fire. Like I've heard a lot of jokes about church things that I'm like, oh no.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01:It's like I do think not to like be weird or pat myself on the back, but like you have to be really um, you have to take it very, very seriously.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I take comedy extremely seriously, and I have like a big long list of rules in my head that like I will not break. So it is like playing with fire. You have to be very, very careful. And that's why we don't see a lot of it, because it's a lot easier to just make people go, huh.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's hard to make people laugh with the spirit.
SPEAKER_04:It's really more of a challenge. You know, that's why comedians now like Nate Burghetsey, who are very clean, are I think more popular, but it's like they're brilliant because they have to navigate those lines so well. And they're not even members of our faith. Uh, but like you said, you know, like the spirit and comedy bow together in that it fills all vessels. It's like water in that way. So whether whatever that is, right? I have a partner, you asked me earlier if I'm still doing some uh improv. And what I'm doing is I have a comedic partner who we work in the physical therapy space together, and so we'll do some shows and we play songs.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and um the big question we ask each other, because he's he used to be a bishop. The big the big filter for us is if we were ever called to be mission presidents, does this joke, is this joke something that would we'd be embarrassed of? Yeah, and so we have to kind of run that filter through most of the jokes that we make. And yeah, I mean, uh he has to hold me to that filter more than the other way around, but it's important it's incredibly important to keep those boundaries as we learned.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, okay, if you know, would this be okay if? And mostly it's like if my kids I don't know. I used to be like so like I don't know, edgy, or like I used to like just love that stuff and like the stuff I loved. And I think that was an important time because it helped me realize who I am, and like I don't think people are dumb for like enjoying that kind of comedy. Like it's just not who I am.
SPEAKER_04:No, it's not the it's not the message you want to convey as a comedian.
SPEAKER_01:It's not on brand, it's not on brand for me as a performer, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You respect the art of all those things. So let's talk about that. So you're going through this dark time, you're going through PTSD, you're you're doing your some comedy was was a part of that, but what were some of the key things that brought you back?
SPEAKER_01:Um I was like hospitalized, and they sent psychiatrists and social workers to kind of like okay, let's get you, let's figure out what's going on at home. Like, why are you here? Like what what's so bad? And um they were like, Okay, do you have like a community? Like, are you part of a church? And I was like, Well, used to be and they're like, Oh, and I was like, Well, I used to be, you know, part of the church, the LDS church. And like, oh my gosh, you're part of that church? Go be part of that church. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_01:They're like, Oh, those people are great, like they'll set you up, and the bishop will have set you up. Like, they were like, Why would you not? And I'm like, Well, it has kind of a complicated history or whatever, like the thing, like our social, you know, all these things they start bringing up. They're like, You gotta, you gotta go to church. Like, you're here, though. Like, you can't, you're not thriving. You're in a danger to yourself. You need to go to church.
SPEAKER_04:Like I didn't know that the church was had such great fans over uh with mental health professionals. Like, who'd have thought?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, at least the one the nurses I was with. But it was just like I think so I just I think I just got humbled enough. And I got humbled enough to realize what I was doing wasn't working. And so church was kind of a Hail Mary. And I think and I think I wanted to prove that church couldn't fix these big complicated wounds I had.
SPEAKER_04:Like you were testing it in a way of like, yeah, I'll do this, maybe it'll work, but if it doesn't, that's more val that's that's still valuable to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was like, I need I need to find I need to find whatever's gonna fix me. And I I'm pretty sure it's not church because you know I wasn't happy in church before, but I guess I'm gonna try it one more time to like prove that's not what it was. Yeah. Kind of like when you're looking for your keys, you're like, I will go look at the key hook. I know it's not there, but then I went and like the keys were on the hook. And that's how it was with the church. I'm like, well, dang, like this is what is helping me. This is what is, this is my purpose, this is where I'm finding healing and relief. And I feel like I really didn't know anything about the gospel until I came back. It was almost like it was a whole new church. I had all these misconceived like misconceptions about who Heavenly Father was, all these misconceptions about what the spirit felt like. I I almost felt like I was getting the first discussion. Interesting. And when I was going to church each week, like, oh my gosh. And when I stopped seeing everybody in the church as like villains, and judgy and judgy, I'm like, everyone's judging me, no one was judging me the whole time. And everyone is just loving, and everyone has been through the same stuff that I've been through. And like, oh my gosh, my people are right here.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting.
SPEAKER_01:It's just it was kind of really wild. And there was one Sunday, and everyone was just fasting for the rain. And like, I think, have you ever been in a in a ward or a stake that's fasted for the rain? Yeah. Here in Arizona.
SPEAKER_04:Arizona, it's a regular card.
SPEAKER_01:Everyone, we gotta fast for the rain. And like it just rained so hard, and and it was just and I had like my earthly brain that I'm like, well, of course it rained, it's monsoon season, and it was gonna rain at some point, but uh, but then my spiritual, like my growing spirit was like all these faithful people just prayed and fasted and brought their brought their concerns to Heavenly Father, and I just remember like watching it rain really hard all day. And there's just all these little like curious like these little bits of curiousness is what brought me back. It was just like, huh, I wonder if it was just curious. It was like, I'm curious if that was a spirit. I'm curious if this would make me happy, and it was just like curiosities stack up on top of each other, and then I start having a testimony, like, yeah, this is this is real and this is true.
SPEAKER_04:And this is before you had kids?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So had you gone to the temple prior?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I got married at 19. And um I got married at 19, and then like man, it was just do you ever have those people in your life, and every time you talk to them, there's like something else horrible going on with them, and you're like, you must be making this up, or like you must be a curse. That was me. It was like just really bad stuff kept piling. Like, as soon as we got married, and I was like hit by a car, and that was just like the first of like many things. Many, it was just like bam, bam, bam, and it was like, oh my gosh. And I'm trying to be like trying to be um happy, I'm trying to be optimistic, and it was like bam, bam, all this stuff. And um, I think that's what just hit on my spirit, and I think I just like wasn't strong enough to I don't know. I didn't realize that I could be miserable and also that the church would be true.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Those two things could be true at the same time. You know what's interesting? I was talking to my bishop recently uh when someone in stake state conference, it was the adult session the day before, and uh or no, no, it was a leadership training. This man stood up and just said, you know, there's a lot of people who who have who carry some perceived, at least perceived trauma, if not actual trauma, regarding church membership or temples. And and I asked my bishop, like, do you know what he's talking about? And he said, Absolutely, there's a lot of people who are miserable, they have these horrible things happen, and they're like, I was going to the temple, I was doing these things, and like, you know, why would this happen to me? So I think that's a normal thing. I have people in my immediate family who are struggling with some of that right now because because yeah, uh these things happen. Like these horrible things are just so disconcerting at best, if not completely disruptive to everything that were our reality, you know.
SPEAKER_01:I think I've always carried this kind of like a feeling of um not belonging since I was a kid. I'm just like, I don't really belong in this friend group. And it's like, oh, you mean the friend group that came to celebrate your birthday with you and wants to hang out with you every day? And it's like I don't really belong.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And like I feel that way at church, like, I have no church friends, and then I'm still friends with the my friends from church growing up, like today, like my sisters. And I just like, oh, I don't belong. And even in improv, like, oh, I don't belong.
SPEAKER_04:It's probably one of the reasons we got there is because we were looking for somewhere to belong.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, looking for somewhere to belong. And I remember feeling that a little bit in the temple of just like, mm, this feels like it's for more righteous people than me. And like then when I started getting help, and I realized that feeling of belonging is just like up to me to just tell myself I belong wherever I go and that I belong because I'm a daughter of God and like that's where my belonging is. Then I remember going to the temple, like the first time I went to the temple, like, oh yeah, this is like this is for me. This is a gift for me. This is so nice. I belong here. I didn't have to like get a stamp on my forehead. Like, I mean, I have like the temple recommend, but even when I had the temple recommend, I was like, I'm still, you know, I get lost in the temple sometimes, or I don't know what's going on. And then at the veil, did you have you gotten the clipboard at the veil?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_01:This, oh my gosh. I cried so hard that I like scared the temple worker. It wasn't like it wasn't like emotional tear.
SPEAKER_04:It wasn't a gentle it wasn't a gentle tear.
SPEAKER_01:I was like like shaking. It was so sweet. It's just at the veil, now if you need it, I actually don't even I don't even think I asked for it. I think they just handed it to me.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:It's just a clipboard, and I just felt Oh, so he could read. So he can read.
SPEAKER_04:They have they usually will have that for me to look at, but I didn't know they've handed it before. So they handed it.
SPEAKER_01:They just handed my little shaking hands. Oh the clipboard, and it was just I felt so empowered, and I just remember thinking, I feel so empowered, and then the spirit just told me so clearly, like, yeah, you're in the temple, it's where you feel empowered. And it was just it was just a shift for me. It was so powerful. I have like goosebumps thinking about the clipboard. I love the clipboard. Whoever had the idea to hand people clipboards, um, it just I always and everyone's always so nice at the veil. They're always it's always so I never have any reason to feel uncomfortable besides my own, you know, brain, yeah, my own anxiety.
SPEAKER_04:Which I relate to, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's like, what do I say? What do I do? And they always tell you, um, but it was so empowering to just be able to say it. And like man, I just love that clipboard.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I mean, there's maybe somebody would go through the temple and say, like, what's this clipboard doing here? Yeah. It's for me.
SPEAKER_04:It's for Emily, don't you know? That's Emily's clipboard. Well, no, but it's it's such a nice, you know, there's so many things in the temple like that for me that are just reminders of the help, the help, and how Hellmy Father knew that this was going to be a super challenging experience for us, and we were gonna go through really intense pain. And how sometimes it's that person standing when you first walk in smiling, just to greet you and just say, Hey, you're home. Or sometimes it's a clipboard, other times it's a whisper in the ear if you can't remember, or like I one time I was um we were doing an endowment session, and my I was with my brother and my brother-in-laws, and you know, everyone's getting dressed at one point in the ceremony, and and I looked over and my one of my my brother-in-law, and this is so him, he was helping this old man, just this very frail, like almost from the movie up level, old man. And he's just helping him get all everything situated. And I just thought, you know, that that is that to me is is one of the many ways that things point to Christ in the temple, is just the help we get and the reminder that like we're all wearing the same color clothes because there's no status. We're all equally, yeah. No one needs the savior any less than anybody else.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I love it so much, and I love like in the temple, there's not like, oh, that's that's the temple for people who are really, really confident in their testimony.
SPEAKER_04:It's like this is the temple for figured out for you know, you're fresh off of temple prep.
SPEAKER_01:This is the same double doors as you know, that really old guy that comes every week or whatever. Like, same same place. Yeah. Uh I love the temple, and I've never been weirded out by the temple. Maybe it's just because my life was too weird before I came to the temple.
SPEAKER_04:If anything, it felt on brand.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, this is the most normal thing I've ever been a part of.
SPEAKER_04:You know, it's interesting because we had um a couple weeks ago a guest come down from Salt Lake. He's a state president and he's been he wrote a book about the temple that's in Deseret Book and all these cool things, uh, Mark Matthews. And he talks a lot about that. You know, there's a ceremony to this, very similar to like a king or queen being coronated. There's a lot of like uh ritualistic nature in the temple that for many that if they're not prepared for can be very off-putting. But like for some, like you being one of those that there's just a certain degree of just understanding that some people have around it. And I think that's because like if you've always felt like at least I I felt the same way, Emily. I felt like I was beating to a different drum most of my life. And then they go to the temple and you're just like, okay, great. You know, that piece of it's nice.
SPEAKER_01:I have friends my especially girls my age who are like, could you believe you know I'm like, yeah, or you know, I don't know if I want to talk too much about that, but yeah, there's just those perspectives of it that you were just really open to, and then you felt that.
SPEAKER_04:Did you did you go to temple prep before?
SPEAKER_01:I didn't, I don't remember if I did. I was 19.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I think in my singles ward, I think there was like temple prep, but it was like just pretty much marriage advice. It was mostly like what I remember from it was the bishop telling the men in the room, the boys in the room, like, let your wife control the thermostat. That was bishop prep. And I was like, that's really that was my temple prep. Okay, he wasn't wrong. In charge of the stream the thermostat. Um but so I mean I took some time away from church. I I feel like it was like five years I had left the church. Yeah. But then I have some friends that are like, oh, you never left the church, because I never took my name off the records. I never like had that Facebook post, like, I hereby leave the church. You know, I and I still like went to church every few months. I would go just like angry in the back.
SPEAKER_04:I'm just like, ah Why do you think you went, honestly?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, obviously, it's just like this tie. Like I think I think I'm like that sheep that was like just the stupidest lost sheep. No, it's like running into like the dirty water, it's like being dragged by a rope, like, oh come on. Oh but I definitely had this tie. Like, I think deep in my heart I knew. Right. But I was like, I gotta leave the church, but I would still go.
SPEAKER_04:But I'm gonna go this Sunday.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna go and just make Relief Society really weird for somebody.
SPEAKER_04:I'm gonna take the sacrament and show them. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fun because you obviously that light in you is is unstoppable, and I I can only imagine that journey back for you just being again such a an alignment for you with the savior. And you mentioned before we hit record how having kids really changed that as well for you. Is that right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think so. I've been coming back to church maybe a year or two. Wow. And then, you know, having kids really kind of made me feel like I'm never gonna leave again. And not just like because I know some people just like go to church when they have kids because they're like, ah, it's good for kids, but I don't believe it. Like, you know, I don't know. I really just like it was life-saving for me. And so I just want to make sure that my kids always have that, or at least they always know that mom has that. Yeah, like mom has the big bouncy trampoline of the gospel. Anyone in the family needs it. Yeah, but when I came back, I remember feeling ready to get my temple recommend. And I was really excited to go back to the temple again, and Steak President was like, um, I think you should do temple prep. And I was like a little, I think I was a little offended or like hurt because I still like I struggle with unbelonging, and I'm like, oh I got rejected.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Here's here's something that we feel you need to do.
SPEAKER_01:Kind of versus you know how you should probably I wasn't like, I think I should do temple prep. They're like, before we give this to you, you should probably do temple prep. And I was like, I didn't have to do it last time, or at least I don't remember it.
SPEAKER_04:I already know about the thermostat. I'm good. I already know. I'm really I'm able to go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we know about date nights. Um but we did temple prep and it was the best. And I feel like everyone should do temple prep. Okay. Everyone do temple prep. I mean, are you allowed to just do it? It was just like a guy in our ward, so maybe it would have to be a lot of time from someone in your ward to do temple prep for you.
SPEAKER_04:I will tell you, I have, especially after having so many guests on the show about temple, you can only imagine what I've learned. I, you know, people when I first started the podcast, I've mentioned this a few times. People are like, why are you doing temple boundums? Because I want to learn.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And it's uh one of the things I've learned is that we're getting better as as members to prepare each other for the temple. And I think there's that's not that's revelation for sure. And like I agree, I think everyone should do a prep class. There's a book right now that Mark Matthews, the guy mentioned earlier, he just wrote this book. And uh, I'm not gonna try with my dyslexia to recall the name exactly, but look it up, Mark Matthews at the at the uh Deseret book. It's about understanding your temple experience. I think that's the name. And yeah, I know I'm so proud of myself. And so that book was like that plus like a good class, completely different than my preparation.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, it was just so cool, and I was just I felt like it was gonna be like stop sinning. Like I thought it was gonna be like just you know more worthiness focused, worthiness focused, and I was. Like, okay, I'll do that. Like, you know, I'm like, I want to be faithful, I'll do whatever. And it was just like, Do you know this about the temple? You know this about the temple? And it was the coolest guy in my ward. It was Mark Dixon and his wonderful wife, Claudia. And we just go to their house and they would just do temple prep. And we like graduated when we were done. They like made us dinner. Did they really because it was like, oh my gosh, it's the best meal. She's like, homemade rolls, homemade freezer jam, flowers from her garden. Whoa. It was like tillamook ice cream.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, I definitely need to do I definitely feel like impressed to do some temple prep with these guys.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Knock on their door.
SPEAKER_04:I heard you guys are preparing people for the temple. That's so powerful.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was the best. Um, actually, this Saturday I'm opening for Steve Solberg. Do you know Steve Solberg? I don't. He's a clean stand-up comedian.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. Are you doing stand-up or what are you doing?
SPEAKER_01:He I'm doing stand-up, which I don't do.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh, where is this?
SPEAKER_01:It's at Higley School.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the Higgley Performing Center over Higgly High School. My kids go to Higley High School.
SPEAKER_01:So I was at this conference for like female creators or whatever, and I was like playing like Peace and Christ. And the guy doing sound was like, Do you ever do stand-up comedy? I was like, no.
SPEAKER_04:Definitely not. Wait, so he asks you that while you're playing a serious song.
SPEAKER_01:Well, after. Okay. He's like, hey, I saw you performing and um would you do stand-up? I'm like, no, hard pass. Like I did stand up a couple times at Improv Mania. And just no. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Like worse than improv bombing.
SPEAKER_04:Like I I remember those days of saying something and then everyone just kind of oh no.
SPEAKER_01:Like never again. Like not only no, but like hard pass. And he's like, okay, well, my friend is a stand-up comedian and wants you, like, you should open. Okay. I was like, no. And then I like had a phone call with Steve, and I'm like, I don't do stand-up. I don't want to do stand-up. Like, here's here's another recommendation. Like, this person's great. This person's family friendly in Gilbert. This person's great. This person's great. And he's like, okay. And then he was at this conference I was at, and then he like saw me do some of my Instagram songs. He's like, Yeah, you should open Zong. So you're gonna do some of your songs? Yeah. But it's not LDS audience. Like, there might be some LDS people in channel.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you're not talking about Relief Society. You're you're just being clean.
SPEAKER_01:I'm really nervous about it. I like text him just yesterday. I'm like, hey, just so you know, there's also this person and this person.
SPEAKER_04:You were desperately trying to get him excited about somebody else. But there's something calling you to this.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I guess so.
SPEAKER_04:Emily, I gotta tell you.
SPEAKER_01:You should meet Steve.
SPEAKER_04:Sure. I listen, let's not stop, stop trying to pat your your responsibility on other people. I'm pretty sure it's you. And I will tell you what, I I have this weird feeling, Emily. I have this gift of knowing when people are gonna start hitting big. Oh like do you ever have you ever seen Napoleon Dynamite?
SPEAKER_01:Have I ever seen Napoleon Dynamite? What kind of a question you're gonna do? I know.
SPEAKER_04:Kip was a mission companion friend of mine.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_04:And I just remember I was with him, and I remember going, dude, you're gonna be big.
SPEAKER_00:You're like, dude, you're a star.
SPEAKER_04:You're gonna be a star. I can see it in your eyes. And he full on, like, out. He didn't even tell me he was on that movie until I was in the theater with my wife, and I like ran out and called him, like, why didn't you tell me? It's like, I don't know. But like, I feel that about you. I think there's something really big. I want everyone to go listen to.
SPEAKER_01:I'll be Tina.
SPEAKER_04:So I can't wait. When is this concert that you're that it's the end of the show? It's this Saturday?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I mean, this episode might not come out before it.
SPEAKER_04:Are you talking about the day after tomorrow?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, but I was gonna say, because if it was next weekend, I could push this episode out for m for this Monday.
SPEAKER_01:But really, you should probably open instead. Do you have a type 15?
SPEAKER_04:I don't have a type, I don't have a type one.
SPEAKER_01:Me neither. I'm so scared.
SPEAKER_04:Um is there any way? Do you have any are you locked and loaded to play any comedic songs here? Or is that gonna be I could.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if there's anything temply.
SPEAKER_04:That's okay. I listen, we're talking about the temple, we're talking about unique spirits, we're talking about like individuality and how every everyone goes the temple and how that's goes. So if you have you open. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh, that's so temply.
SPEAKER_01:That is temply now. I think about it. Let's go. So I have people in my DMs. And most of my I feel like my fans are really divided. Most of them are women. Yeah. No offense to any men that are my fans also. Sure. But most of them are women. And it's like really half girls my age that are like progressive, like LDS, like love all the changes, and the other half is like old fuddy duddy, like hate all the changes. And I I can't tell, like, in my heart I'm fuddy duddy. I'm also of the age, like you're both. I'm both. Like, I'm a fuddy duddy. And um, so with the tank top garment, I get just people just want to talk to me about it.
SPEAKER_04:People are in line for two hours at Desert Public and going, I gotta talk to Emily about this.
SPEAKER_01:They're like, I hate that people are making jokes about something that's so sacred to us. But I'm like, these women love the temple. They love their garments. That's why they're in line for two hours.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:They're not um, you know, they're not getting them to make fun of them. Oh, but they're waiting in line for two hours.
SPEAKER_04:They're excited about it. They want to wear the they want to be reminded of their covenants and all these things. And yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just like, a lot of girls my age have stopped wearing their garments. So like by the way, that's a big thing I've heard. Yes. And so I'm like one of the last few.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but uh, and it's fine, I'm not judging anybody either. No, no, no. But um, I just to me, I'm so touched. I'm like, oh, you're getting in line for the garments. That's so cool. We'll be garment buddies. Like, I I love everyone getting in line for the garments. Um, anyway, this is the same.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, let's hear let's hear it let's hear a tank top garment song and then we'll come back.
SPEAKER_01:Right on oh yeah. Right on time when the weather gets colder. I'm gonna show one more inch shoulder. Hot girl coming through. That's what my tank top is gonna do. Comma come a comma, the tank top is coming soon. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna show the world a new side of me. Get the farmer's pan of happiness. Honey three! Hot girl coming through. That's what my tank top is gonna do. Come on, come on, come on, the tank top is coming soon. So throw away the shrug, the cardigan as well. I got a cold shoulder on a Jezebel! Ha girl coming through. That's what my tank top is gonna do. Coma comma comma, the tank top is coming soon. Well, well, well, yeah, modest is modest, but if I'm being honest, I never really bought it because my body's not gonna be. We're in the line, and so you're gonna say, look at that snack with the two-inch strap. Oh hi, girl. Come and soon. Ain't it strange, don't change a thing about you. Ain't it strange, don't change a thing about you. Ain't it strange, don't change a thing about you. Well, you're cracking me in.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh, I have tears rolling down my face.
SPEAKER_01:I know if that's podcast appropriate. Oh, it's hot girl coming through.
SPEAKER_04:Hot girl coming through. I know, I love it. That's so wonderful. I want the people, I want people to hear that.
SPEAKER_01:It's um, you know, it's like world-changing and it's also not.
SPEAKER_04:Right. The song kind of hit both of those points. I love that last comment about it doesn't really change anything about you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's like even if my mom and I talk about this all the time, because my mom like loves coffee, but she won't drink it, but she's like, one day, like she's holding out. Like every conference, she's like perched waiting for them to say coffee's okay. And I'm like, they're never gonna say it. But or maybe they will, but like, um, you know, I I think people are really when there's changes, it's like, what do we what do we that's not right. That's no, no, no, because I like I put so much into that.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And it's like, you know, it doesn't change about you because what is like, have you heard the analogy with changes in the church? Like the trunk of the tree is the atonement of Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_04:Right, that doesn't change.
SPEAKER_01:That doesn't change. And we have these branches which are policies and da-da-da, but like the trunk is not changed. I was in the primary presidency when it switched to two-hour church.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And our nursery leaders were like, there's just not time to do everything. When are we gonna do bubbles? We don't have time to do bubbles because we do they did air pop popcorn, that was like the thing. Yeah. Like then we did popcorn for snack, and then we have the lesson, and we have there's no time for bubbles. I'm like, then there might not be time for bubbles.
SPEAKER_04:But it was like big emotional investment, and I respect that, and I love how people are so dialed in. And there's this thing called change. The only constant in life, the only thing that will will always be the same is that everything always changes except for one thing, the atonement.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And I said just get rid of the lesson, and then you'll have time for the bubbles because that's a little bit more important. I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_04:Because heaven knows those kids need some bubbles.
SPEAKER_01:They need some bubbles.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's it's such a beautiful song. Like again, I know you take comedy seriously, so do I. Like, I'm still just analytical about it, and I don't want to spend more time on the show because literally I want to. But I love the light-hearted nature around it, but it does hit the core concept of the fact that like these things are are going to evolve. The church is being restored, it's being restored year over year over year, and no one in my mind accelerated that more than President Nelson.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Which I thought I was like, oh, super old guy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I didn't know him as well as the other guys. Like when he became prophet, I this is a true, like transparent part of me. I didn't know as much about him. And so I was like, oh, he's just one of the next ones, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:And this is gonna be boring. There was actually, oh dang, what news? It was like New York Times or something. It was like a big shoot, what was it? It was a headline said, Nothing's gonna change much with this new prophet for the Mormon church. And it like aged so poorly. Like, look how much, and I I don't think he saw that as a challenge. I think he was already enacting change. But yeah, when I wrote that tank top song, I was thinking about like the the older ladies in my ward that are like bugged. Yeah, and like and their hearts are genuinely hurting. And I think like usually we have all the pain um people that are like upset with policies in the church. It's usually like the younger generation. It's like, oh well, the younger kids are gonna be upset with the policies of the church. But lately it's the opposite. And like it's been kind of because I was definitely one of those people, especially when I left the church, very upset with the policies and social issues in the church. And I kind of had to like get my testimony and kind of grapple with those things, and it's interesting to be on the other side and now seeing like the older people in my congregation that are like I just don't understand this two-hour church. I just don't understand these tank top garments, I don't understand this. Why are we getting our scouts? I don't understand this and this and this and all these changes. And I like, I'm not gonna say like, oh, just get with the times, because that didn't help me when I was struggling.
SPEAKER_04:You almost see yourself in them, don't you?
SPEAKER_01:100% see myself in them. So when I hear these women be like, I don't like people making uh I don't like people wearing the tank top garments, it's like I totally I feel your pain, not like I you empathize with their personality. I empathize with feeling like what's going on in my church, because I felt like that before. I felt like, whoa, this is my church, what's going on? And um, you know, it's just kind of getting lost in the branches and not focusing on the trunk of the gospel of Jesus Christ. But I've been there, so I don't like I would never tell someone like get with the times.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know, and that was something I remember that was cool about our improv group as well, is that there was uh there was a mix of everybody in that group, and and the comedy was the only thing that mattered, and it was um it's not the savior, but it was a good, but it was a good opportunity to to find common ground with your brothers and sisters on the earth, and there's no more common ground on the earth than the atonement. You know, and going back to President Nelson, I've when he passed away, I was genuinely hurt, I was genuinely sad um deeply. And it was because I never I've never known that a modern prophet was a prophet the way I knew President Nelson was a prophet of the Lord. I and it wasn't because of the changes, it was just it was just a realization that this is the Lord's church, and that you know, change comes through revelation and that's being revealed, and that it's it's you know, like creation, it's a bit messy. You know, if you think about things we create, like there's there's kind of a mess to it in a sense from our temporal eyes, but in the divine order of things, it's beautiful and perfect and how it needs to be. It's just us growing and learning how that fits in.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I felt that way too. His wife was talking about like how he would wake up at like the middle of the night and just say, like, it's happening, like Wendy, it's happening. Yeah, Wendy, it's happening. And um I was reading that story, I'm like, oh, I've never like thought about how revelation would happen. But like that makes sense. It would just kind of be this like overwhelming, like, you know, but anyway, I agree with you. Like, I I felt the same thing where I mean, I was coming back to church and when WrestleM Nelson was the prophet, and so he really was life-changing for me. Anyway, it's really it was like so sad when he passed. And it was also like, you're 101, like that's so cool.
SPEAKER_04:There's that part of it too, you're like, I guess it's time.
SPEAKER_01:I guess it's I guess you're uh really tired.
SPEAKER_04:He said once some he had a great sense of humor. One thing he said at the beginning of a talk, he's like, you know, when you're you're my age, you stop buying green bananas. And I just thought, that is so I I love humor, is such a part of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I mean, again, there's there's things that we've talked about in terms of like considerations, but like I was uh this my sister would be fine with me sharing that. She had surgery last week, and I was giving her a blessing and the spirit was so strong, Emily. And in the blessing, I I had this thing that I said that I just kind of thought and I said it like you do when you're giving blessings, and the and the blessing was your ancestors are in the room with you, supporting you. And then I had this very strong impression of them laughing with my sister. You would love my little sister, Sarah. She is hysterical. And so um I said, and they're laughing with you, and I started laughing as I was giving the blessing, and my sister started laughing. And I think people who don't see comedy as a um of uh something that you transact with as much as I do, they'd be like, What? But that was so the spirit talking to my sister directly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. My husband would, you know, we got married and we're like praying together, and he would make jokes during the prayer. Like uh like one time I burned dinner when we first got married, and he was like, Please help Emily become a better cook. And I was like, Don't bug Heavenly Father with Like I wasn't offended by it, but I was like I like I mean I love being teased, but it was like in the prayer, and I was like, Can you not make jokes during I don't like that? But now it's like you know, now I'm okay with it. Like, and I don't not that I had to ever become because some people it's not their language, like some people just don't want to laugh about it, and that's okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and that's there's nothing wrong with that. We're not saying humor is yeah, totally get it.
SPEAKER_01:But like, you know, if you I think Heavenly Father probably likes your jokes. And like if you feel like you need to joke through to get through something, I like he gets it.
SPEAKER_04:I love that. And you know, I I believe the temple is such a um a focal point for communication with our father in heaven. Not that we have to have that, but it's an accelerated experience around it. Um I had this one experience I'll share with you. Um I was going through a really difficult time. Uh I had actually been suspended from college and was looking at getting kicked out of physical therapy school permanently. It was a it was a big story, I'll have to do a show on it sometime. But I was like crying, like I was I hadn't I hadn't learned about professionals yet, which by the way, for anyone who's listening, I highly recommend talking to professionals. Uh counselors, different kinds of you know, therapists. There's lots of different support out there. If you don't know where to go, go to your bishop. There's lots of uh resources through LDS. But the this one time I wasn't seeing anyone yet, I was just alone. I was I had nowhere to go, I had no work or anything. I was in my car and I was praying, just like pouring my heart out. And I was just like, Father, please. I I just need some sign that you're there. Will you please let me know? And it was one of those really tender moments where I was reaching out to heaven from within, like the the most sincere pain, some of the most sincere pain I've ever had. And I opened my eyes and I'm in the car, and it's I feel this prompting, like, turn on the radio. And it's that song, Don't Worry, be happy. And I laughed. Don't dwell in. The landlord says your rent is late. And I I'm just crying. I was laughing so hard. Hellmy Father has a sense of humor.
SPEAKER_01:I love his like, it's not gonna be alright.
SPEAKER_04:Calm down.
SPEAKER_01:Landlord says your rent is late.
SPEAKER_04:You might have to litigate.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so I was in the temple. Like, I my music wasn't really going anywhere. I'm a musician for other people too. Like, I play piano, like I produce for other people, and I'm kind of like at this crossroads. I'm like, I can't do everything. Um, I have three kids.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm like, I have to kind of I kind of gotta pick a lane. I'm like, so am I gonna do this? Am I gonna do this? Or am I gonna do this? And like those are my choices basically of like, do I just go full time into this one person? Do I start, you know, selling songs here, or do I, you know, whatever. And um I go to the temple. Like, I feel like everyone goes to the temple when you're like at a crossroads.
SPEAKER_04:Sure.
SPEAKER_01:And so I go to the temple, and this is in January of this year. And I'm in the temple, I'm like, lock in. Because I'm always like, lock in, be spiritual. Time to get some revelation here.
SPEAKER_04:It's time to get it going.
SPEAKER_01:Come on. Like, you're here for a purpose. And I'm like, and just like funny things keep happening. Like, I don't know. It's like I'm not making fun of the temple, but just like the humanity going through the temple. It's just right.
SPEAKER_04:There were little things happening that were catching your eye and making you like lost.
SPEAKER_01:He's going, hmm. Hmm. And he was just turning in one spot. I'm like, you're not gonna find your way. There's it was not like at a crossroads of the hall. It was just standing. And I get lost in the temple all the time. So I was just like, that's really funny. I'm like, lock in. You gotta get this revelation of what you're supposed to do. And then I was in the room, like this woman, she had to stand up and leave, part way this older woman with the cane. She was like leaving. And she was like, hitting everybody in the shins with her cane, k clunk, k-klunk, and everyone's so reverent. And then I was like, Don't say anything. Klunk, k-klung. Everyone's calves getting annihilated. I'm just like, this is so funny. And um I'm like, ah shoot, I gotta lock in. Yeah. Like I'm trying to get this revelation on what I'm supposed to do. Focused, Emily. Stay focused. Stop thinking everything is funny. And then there's like something else. I'm not gonna share it because it's like a little too much. But I was like, that's it. I'm like, I think I just have to be goofy. Like, I think I just have to be funny.
SPEAKER_04:It's just who you are, man. I just and then I think the Lord made you for that reason for a way a reason, and heavily knows you have a helly mother who's got a great sense of humor as well. And yeah, yeah, it's just how it is, man. That's so cool.
SPEAKER_01:It's cool. It's just um, yeah, I feel like I'm always trying to be like, okay, be one of those people that belongs in the temple. Like you know, walk the way that people that belong in the temple walk. But like Heavenly Father wants you to walk.
SPEAKER_04:He wants you to walk the way you're supposed to.
SPEAKER_01:He wants your duck-footed limp. He wants you here, and he wants, you know, he wants the stain on your dress, and he wants your can't stop giggling, you know. He just he just wants you. And I feel like the temple is very sacred. And you have to have a recommend. And so it feels we kind of have our earthly connotations with all those things, of thinking like, okay, you have to be this, but you just have to be you.
SPEAKER_04:I think that is the and full and full stop right there. You just have to be you. Um Emily, I want to thank you for being on the show. What I'd like to do is a little bit of a rapid fire question with you. So get ready, very jeopardy. And then after we might could I beg you to do one song after the rapid fire to end the show.
SPEAKER_01:I would love to.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So um, favorite temple? Which one's your favorite temple?
SPEAKER_01:Mesa.
SPEAKER_04:Mesa. Why?
SPEAKER_01:It's just there. Those are when I think that the temple, that's the temple.
SPEAKER_04:That's the temple that you're up and around. What is something that you have learned that has helped you get more out of the temple that you can share with others?
SPEAKER_01:Um the temple isn't uh inside joke that everyone gets that you don't. Like the temple is just a place where you just go and whatever you're taking from it is enough. And it's not like I used to feel like, okay, when am I gonna get it? Like everyone else gets it, when am I gonna get it? And as soon as you just like know Heavenly Father loves you, then you get it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man. I didn't know you were so articulate. Holy money.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:I just remember us being you know, acting like fire hydrants on stage. Really? I don't know. It must have been fun. It was a good time. And then um, last question, you know, part of the magic of this show is that it is actually family history in the making. So as we're doing this episode, your kids, your spirit of Elijah, literally, and so what would you tell your kids, your your sons, your your future grandbabies, what would you want them to know about the temple?
SPEAKER_01:Um the temple is for you, and it's a special place for you to learn more about how beloved you are. And I just hope that you love the temple and that it might take some time, just like learning how to read, learning how to ride your bike. Some things take a few steps at a time. And so maybe the first time you go through the temple, you're like, I don't quite love it yet. Just keep going and you're gonna learn the language of the temple just like you learned how to read, just like you learned multiplication. Like you kind of need some time to learn the temple too, and that's okay.
SPEAKER_04:Emily, I I am so touched, and and and I mean this when I say thank you so much for just who you are. I think there's so many people who who are who relate to you. I I really mean this. You're gonna be a star, Kid.
SPEAKER_00:I gotta be a star.
SPEAKER_04:You're gonna be a star.
SPEAKER_00:Napoleon Dynamite 3.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, we're on the trip, we're on the third wave. We got a franchise, baby. Yeah. So uh let's hear one more song. And and before you start, just again, thanks for being on the show.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks, Will. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_02:The speed of God, like a fire is burning. The letter begins to come forth, the visions and blessings of all our eternity, and angels are coming to visit the earth. We'll see and we'll share with the artist of heaven, and a hosena to God and the Lamb. Let's glory to them, and the highest be given henceforth and forever. Amen.
SPEAKER_04:Thanks again for listening to today's episode of Temple Bound. If you enjoyed today's show, make sure to join us over on Instagram at Temple Bound Podcast to receive additional information as well as previews of our upcoming episodes. See you over there.
